One thing we've learned since 2007 is that the President doesn't feel just-completely-satisfied with any plot points that don't involve him giving some kinda ur-transcendental speech that "resets," "pivots," "reconnects the American people with their core values," etc.
So what do we expect from him tonight? A "pragmatic" appeal to the independent, moderate co-pragmatists of America? A "grown-up" refutation of disappointed liberals' disappointment? A "bipartisan" concession to deficit-hawk lies, insurance company lies, and other hatefuck fantasies? A "good speech" that brings us closer to a vote, gives Blue Dogs and Olympia Snowe cover for said votes, and gets the country moving away from the direction of capital-administered, neglect-based health care?
I'm hoping for the latter, if only because, shucks, like my Tea Party friends, I'm ready to transfer all this animus and mawkishness into the emergent bloodbath over that other disappointing disappointment, cap and trade.
Wednesday, September 9, 2009
Pre-Speech Waiting Area AND Open Thread
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lex dexter
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Concessionaire.
At least we'll get to look at Joe Biden throughout the speech.
Is this going to get in the way of "America's Got Talent"? I want my Clumpy!
Will prolly be here late, after putting munchkin to bed/before passing out before another early day. I'll stop complaining now.
Want to go home to watch, must cover office for ABSOLUTELY NO FUCKING REASON.
Should we start a live blog thread?
I am personally hoping for an articulation of what a public option is, what it would look like, and why it is necessary...
Howsa 'bout you?
there better be a public option in those envelopes
Fucking Jeff Fucking Merkley [Fucking D-Fucking OR] sighting!
i could def live w/o the state of the union theatrics; i really just want to hear about health care...
Ash, I conquer....
(obligatory simpsons reference)
our health care problem IS our deficit problem; well said.
You guys aren't gonna believe this, but it looks like the President is going to split the difference between Left- and Right-Wing ideologues in order to find a truly "American" solution.
what are the 'best ideas' of the republicans?
The "Now is the Time, Now is the Season" riff was a real winner!
If only we could do all these things to the health insurance companies w/o having to mandate that Americans give them billions of dollars.
a lot of colorful outfits in the heazy
booooooooo!
Define "quality" and "affordability."
"Insurance exchanges" and there goes the public option.
We hardly knew ye.
exchanges. tax credits. not what i wanted to hear.
I have a mancrush on Peter Orszag.
btw...
TORT REFORM!!!!!!!
No one's liking the mandates.
Boehner and the Rep's around him seem pretty tightly wound up... (from my view on PBS)
Don't address the controversies.
was someone just clapping for misinfomation????
Death PAnels! Drink!
Calling the liars! Holy crap!
GOP standing behind the "death panels."
did someone just yell 'that's a lie!'?
them*
Does BHO have the power to set the record straight?
(No.)
pretty sure NC is like AL
GOP: "Are we for accountability? Yes? Maybe? Ah, ok, yes!"
I kind of want BHO to make it a personal mission to destroy the jackass who called out "that's a lie."
wait, is that a sort of public option?
"availability" has not been the goal. Quality and affordability have been the goals.
And to the jackass who called me a liar? Rahm knows who you are.
yea. work together!
CNN viewers: what were the dudes in the back holding up?
GOP not standing in support of the private bureaucrat?
DO NOT PROMISE A DEFICIT NEUTRAL PACKAGE! Gah!
Ginger having a tough time understanding how the GOP can argue that gov't-run health care would drive private insurance companies out of business while simultaneously arguing that all gov't run programs are bloated inefficient messes.
Lex?
Don't give me the details. Tell me puppies are cute and
TORT REFORM!!!!!
Ultimate TORT REFORM Money-Shot!!
costs = less than iraq/afghanistan, Bush tax cuts. effective.
Why do they keep holding up the bill?
@wobblie They keep holding up the bill because it is 1000 pages, which, as Lex can attest, 99.99% of Americans think is an insurmountable amount of reading material. You and I know it can be accomplished in a night or two.
Those bills have 2 inch margins on the left and right! It takes 6 hours. Divvy it up among 4 friends, and there you go, 1.5 hours, plus an hour to share notes.
Of course, most 'Muricans would rather watching Dancing With The Stars...
How can the GOP not stand up? Jeebus Christ.
Making the case for government. So sad we have to do that.
BEST. DEMOCRATIC. POL. QUA. POL. OF. OUR. LIFETIME.
The end of that speech was killer.
And now the media wants to talk about the goddamn hecklers.
I liked the comparison of a public option to a public university/college...
though I want more than a freakin co-op...
AAARRRGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!! Chuck Todd "running quickly" through the goddamn hc plan in order to talk about the politics.
Freaking hecklers in the chamber, Outrageous!
I don't remember W having such a thing happen to his lame ass...though I am sure Barbara Lee thought some stuff...
Next stop, reconciliation.
Repub response from the Strom Thurmond room. Perfect. TV off...
Is that shirt even closely to being in style?
RT @hodgman Is that Mike Meyers playing Charles Boustany?
Nothing would relieve my anxiety like a little TORT REFORM!!!!
Wow. That was... drab.
AGT!
good times good times.... we should do this again sometime....
Goodnight all
Rep. Joe Wilson from SC has been identified as the "That's a lie!" guy. Rahm will have the dead fish in the mail shortly. Classy.
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