Beloved readers - with the conclusion of the 2008 presidential elections, I'm sad to inform you that we'll be retiring the "Maverick" label, that is, unless someone decides to get all post-partisan and nominate McCain to run Veteran Affairs (which would really, really suck). But before we bid adieu to that venerable label that has served us so well these past... how long have we been blogging here? Oh - served us, yadda yadda, we'd like to honor the man who inspired the label with what every True American Hero deserves: a photo montage set to a grunge-lite power ballad.
So long Mavericky McMaverick, and thanks for all the fish.
Showing posts with label The Maverick. Show all posts
Showing posts with label The Maverick. Show all posts
Monday, November 10, 2008
Friday, October 24, 2008
Wednesday, October 22, 2008
No. Fucking. Shame.
Posted by
wobblie
John McCain is a fucking liar:
The "most qualified of any that has run recently for vice president." More qualified than George H.W. Bush. More qualified than Al Gore or Jack Kemp. More qualified than the man who is currently running our government - Dick Cheney.
And Bill Clinton. Who had a law degree from Yale. And was a Rhodes Scholar. And was governor for over a decade. She's at least as qualified as Bill was, probably moreso.
OMFG.
It was enough to foist her upon us in the first place and pretend that she was qualified to run the country. But to offer this stunningly over-the-top endorsement is a transparent lie. And he knows it.
"I think she's most qualified of any that has run recently for vice president, tell you the truth," McCain said, citing her experience as a small-town mayor and Alaska governor. He added: "Bill Clinton was pretty well derided when he came out of a small state to run for president of the United States," and he pronounced himself "amazed" at the criticism.
The "most qualified of any that has run recently for vice president." More qualified than George H.W. Bush. More qualified than Al Gore or Jack Kemp. More qualified than the man who is currently running our government - Dick Cheney.
And Bill Clinton. Who had a law degree from Yale. And was a Rhodes Scholar. And was governor for over a decade. She's at least as qualified as Bill was, probably moreso.
OMFG.
It was enough to foist her upon us in the first place and pretend that she was qualified to run the country. But to offer this stunningly over-the-top endorsement is a transparent lie. And he knows it.
Don Imus re: Rev. Wright and Don Imus
Posted by
lex dexter
h/t to Ben Smith, 'glad to see that the Maverick is doing right by the I-Man and responding to his "tough questions" (about himself, the I-Man). Yeah, I-Man!"When I got in the mess that I got in, Senator Obama was the first one to jump up and suggested that I be fired, which I didn’t have any problem with. And when the wheels came off with Reverend Wright, the first thing Senator Obama said was that we should put his remarks in context and also we should consider all the wonderful things that Rev. Wright had done throughout his life," Imus said. "That was a luxury that he was affording Reverend Wright and himself to get out of that mess, and something that he was unwilling to afford me – not that that would have been appropriate, by the way. But I thought that revealed a disturbing level of hypocrisy and a willingness to employ a double standard and something worth talking about."I mean, leave it to a self-absorbed wanker like BHO to not distinguish between a) his pastor, and b) a washed-up, unfunny moron who essentially mocked black women athletes for being black!
Monday, October 13, 2008
Oh Jonah, How Can You Be So Wrong Being So Right?
Posted by
dave3544
I agree whole-heartedly with Jonah Goldberg.
Only one candidate believes that government can be a force for good, protecting people from the worst excess of our capitalist system. The other candidate believes that government is always bad and the free market can solve all problems (the "how" is left unstated).
Only one candidate has a track record he is willing to stand by when he runs for office. The other candidate has come back into the fold when power is on the line.
Only one candidate is cool, calm, and collected. The other candidate is a cranky old man who looks in need of a good nap much of the time.
See, the choice shouldn't be too hard at all.
The real hints for how to choose a candidate, at least in a general election (as opposed to a primary), reside in the realm of judgment, philosophy, track record and temperament. And, using those criteria, the choice shouldn’t be hard at all.Only one candidate had the judgment to know that invading Iraq would be a terrible mistake. The other candidate predicted it would be over quickly and we'd be greeted as liberators with candy and flowers.
Only one candidate believes that government can be a force for good, protecting people from the worst excess of our capitalist system. The other candidate believes that government is always bad and the free market can solve all problems (the "how" is left unstated).
Only one candidate has a track record he is willing to stand by when he runs for office. The other candidate has come back into the fold when power is on the line.
Only one candidate is cool, calm, and collected. The other candidate is a cranky old man who looks in need of a good nap much of the time.
See, the choice shouldn't be too hard at all.
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Obama,
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Saturday, October 4, 2008
Kabuki
Posted by
wobblie
Sarah Palin. I've heard something about her being "a maverick":
Which then triggered this heartfelt plea from a "Main Streeter":
Nuh-uh. I don't buy this for a second. This reeks of another campaign stunt, like they want to show that Palin's mavericky, that she's standing up for the little guy - like former Republican National Committee member Chuck Yob. I'm willing to bet money that a "grassroots campaign" spearheaded by Sarah Palin gets the McCain campaign to un-shutter their storefronts on Main Street, MI.
This just smells like so much bullshit. I really can't take these people seriously.
Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin said Friday that she disagrees with the John McCain campaign’s decision to pull staff and resources out of Michigan.
“I want to get back to Michigan, and I want to try,” Palin said in an interview on Fox News. “Todd and I, we'd be happy to get to Michigan. We'd be so happy to speak to the people there in Michigan who are hurting.”
[...]
The Alaska governor first heard the news this morning and fired off a quick e-mail to campaign officials expressing her displeasure with the move.
“Oh c’mon, do we have to?” Palin said she wrote.
Which then triggered this heartfelt plea from a "Main Streeter":
From: CHUCK YOB
Date: Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 5:34 PM
Subject: Dear Governor Palin from Chuck Yob
To: Governor Palin
Governor Palin,
I saw your comments on Fox News today and described in the Detroit Free Press article below. I wholeheartedly agree with you that the decision by the McCain campaign to pull out of Michigan was the wrong decision.
[...]
I talked to Michigan Republicans and McCain supporters on a conference call last night and they vowed to redouble their efforts. Indeed, there will still be a campaign for John McCain in Michigan whether it is sanctioned by the professionals in Washington DC or not.
Nuh-uh. I don't buy this for a second. This reeks of another campaign stunt, like they want to show that Palin's mavericky, that she's standing up for the little guy - like former Republican National Committee member Chuck Yob. I'm willing to bet money that a "grassroots campaign" spearheaded by Sarah Palin gets the McCain campaign to un-shutter their storefronts on Main Street, MI.
This just smells like so much bullshit. I really can't take these people seriously.
Wednesday, October 1, 2008
Welcome to Ohio, John McCain!
Posted by
lex dexter
not crap. i hope this airs at least as steadily as the Sleuth Channel provides me with Simon and Simon re-runs.
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2008,
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Saturday, September 27, 2008
Bachelorettes in Alaska
Posted by
wobblie
I keep looking at the source of this story, trying to believe it's not The Onion. But it says it's the Sunday Times. Of London. And I have a hard time believing they'd publish something this batshit insane if it weren't well-sourced.
That said, OMFG I hope this is true:
What's the downside?
What's the downside?!? The GOP candidate for POTUS getting a front-row seat at a nationally televised shotgun wedding is considered such PR gold that McCampaign can't see every mother in the country recoiling in horror at the thought of their daughter - who's still in high school - having her personal life politicized for the benefit of a creepy old man? Maybe?
Please make this happen. Please.
That said, OMFG I hope this is true:
In an election campaign notable for its surprises, Sarah Palin, the Republican vice- presidential candidate, may be about to spring a new one — the wedding of her pregnant teenage daughter to her ice-hockey-playing fiancĂ© before the November 4 election.
Inside John McCain’s campaign the expectation is growing that there will be a popularity boosting pre-election wedding in Alaska between Bristol Palin, 17, and Levi Johnston, 18, her schoolmate and father of her baby. “It would be fantastic,” said a McCain insider. “You would have every TV camera there. The entire country would be watching. It would shut down the race for a week.”
[...]
McCain is expected to have a front-row seat at Bristol’s wedding and to benefit from the outpouring of goodwill that it could bring. “What’s the downside?” a source inside the McCain campaign said. “It would be wonderful. I don’t know that there has ever been a pre-election wedding before.” (via)
What's the downside?
What's the downside?!? The GOP candidate for POTUS getting a front-row seat at a nationally televised shotgun wedding is considered such PR gold that McCampaign can't see every mother in the country recoiling in horror at the thought of their daughter - who's still in high school - having her personal life politicized for the benefit of a creepy old man? Maybe?
Please make this happen. Please.
Thursday, September 25, 2008
State of the Race; or, Why I Wanna Blog About Moosic!
Posted by
lex dexter
- Increasingly, the only meaningful "analysis" out there is right here. I'm not sure which OG constituents (besides Ash!) are even living in contested states at this point. In light of that fact, lemme say this: I cannot stop watching the punditry, and I won't stop laughing at and reviling in the obscene television advertisements, but it's clear that what's going to win this race has less to do with the airwaves and more to do with stumping, GOTV, and other "retail" tactics within selected precincts in selected places (OH, CO, FL, NV, MI).
- That's exactly why Joe Biden remains a shrewd (I'm stopping short of saying "brilliant") pick for veep: all gaffes aside, he can stump avec gravitas and "like-ability" in some of the places mentioned above, and that's really all that matters barring major "events." HRC and WJC can and should join in - I'd love to see Bill in NC and VA, en particulier - and I suspect they will. As concerns our current poll, I think the worst thing for HRC's 2012 prospects would be to put a half-assed effort behind Barry. Chalk it up to "enlightened self-interest," but I think we're past the point where she can be blamed for whatever insane supporters of hers are running around making noise. Worse, I think we're adding to a GOP trope by harping on the issue. Not that any undecided voters are reading this, natch..
- Somebody should hi-five Barry Obama for not following McCain into delaying the debates and further "politicizing" the Bail-Out (whatever the eff that's supposed to mean.) It seems like the obvious move in hindsight, but I for one was terrified as of yesterday that he'd cave. I think his calm/cool/collected persona and his willingness to let the Dem congressional leadership lead are as presidential (i.e., 'leaderly') as all get-out - as much as the "race speech," albeit in a different way.
- McCain is more than on the ropes at this point. There was a really cool conversation with (my guilty pleasure) Chris Matthews on Rachel Maddow last nite that I'd gladly present in lieu of my point, but I cannot locate a youtube. In short, Matthews pointed out that McCain is reaching a point of diminishing returns when it comes to his "maverick" decisions. At a certain point, even the best-intentioned of these left-field, game-changing gestures (supporting the surge, nominating Palin, suspending his campaign) will start to seem less like "leadership" and more like the reckless last gasps of an unstable individual who will do anything to win. Obama need only provide a calm contrast and continue running his race against Reagan/Bush/"the Ownership Society:" if we continue to talk about the economy (and do the "retail" thing mentioned above), we will win. Step one, BHO, is getting the bail-out passed with a bunch of Keynesian strings (accountability, govt. equity, no CEO comp, a new stimulus bill). Let me repeat, as I know this sounds counter-intuitive coming from a left-leaner: the Dems should define the bill, pass it, and own it. This is the time to see if a Keynesian neoliberalism is a possibility, and to tie financial markets' sufficiency to public investment, job creation, etc...This way the Dems could claim the mantle of "fiscal responsibilty" without ceding their (alleged) identification with working America. (note - This should happen at a pace set by Chris "lexdexter's Dad" Dodd, not Hank Paulson et. al. ...why it needs to go down by this weekend is a question you'd have to ask those pigs.)
- Obviously Sarah Palin is sinking fast. All that's left is for Joe Biden to do the yeomen's work of beating her in the debate without seeming like a condescending chauvinist pig. Can he do it? I dunno.
- Kinda hoping for a macro-level discussion of the race at this point....anybody?
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Wednesday, September 24, 2008
Now I'm a believer
Posted by
wobblie
I was skeptical the first time I was asked to make a contribution to DavePAC. Sure, "promoting Dave and all things Dave related" sounds like a good thing, and all you guys named Dave sure seem like decent folk, but what's in it for me, someone who's name is not-Dave?
Well now I know:
Contribute today.
Well now I know:
Contribute today.
Smoke them out of their caves - or corporate suites. Whatever
Posted by
wobblie
My favorite part of the "batshit insane political gimmick suspension of campaign to put Country First™" announcement, here in the last graf:
A not-so-subtle attempt to try and bottle some of his presumed national security gravitas to sprinkle on his woefully lacking economic chops, no?
Following September 11th, our national leaders came together at a time of crisis. We must show that kind of patriotism now. Americans across our country lament the fact that partisan divisions in Washington have prevented us from addressing our national challenges. Now is our chance to come together to prove that Washington is once again capable of leading this country.
A not-so-subtle attempt to try and bottle some of his presumed national security gravitas to sprinkle on his woefully lacking economic chops, no?
BREAKING! Wobs to suspend blogging to address urgent beer crisis
Posted by
wobblie
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
My fellow OGians. Ours is a desperate time. It has come to my attention that there is a half-rack of Rogue Dead Guy Ale in my refrigerator that must be consumed. Should this consumption not occur, further half-racks of beer will not be able to fit inside the refrigerator, causing a cascade effect which may prevent countless hundreds of beers from residing on the shelf next to last night's leftovers.
The situation is grave.
In light of this crisis, I am hereby suspending my blogging to focus all of my attention on these pressing matters. As OGians, we can all agree that when there is an urgent need to drink beer, it is no time to blog. I further call upon my fellow bloggers to suspend their writing so that they may rush over to my house in order to help resolve this crisis. It is time to put the needs of my refrigerator above our need to pander to the feckless whims of our readership.
God bless you, and god bless the OG.
My fellow OGians. Ours is a desperate time. It has come to my attention that there is a half-rack of Rogue Dead Guy Ale in my refrigerator that must be consumed. Should this consumption not occur, further half-racks of beer will not be able to fit inside the refrigerator, causing a cascade effect which may prevent countless hundreds of beers from residing on the shelf next to last night's leftovers.
The situation is grave.
In light of this crisis, I am hereby suspending my blogging to focus all of my attention on these pressing matters. As OGians, we can all agree that when there is an urgent need to drink beer, it is no time to blog. I further call upon my fellow bloggers to suspend their writing so that they may rush over to my house in order to help resolve this crisis. It is time to put the needs of my refrigerator above our need to pander to the feckless whims of our readership.
God bless you, and god bless the OG.
Tuesday, September 23, 2008
Revenge fantasies of the impotent
Posted by
wobblie
Sometimes the tools I use to keep on top of the information I need for my job send me on some wild trips through the ninth sphere of the blogoverse. And today I found Woody, who hepped me to this thoroughly satisfying little journey through the land of "What if?"
What caught my eye is that Woody approvingly cites the WTF? first paragraph of this Washington Times bit:
Call them the "Doomsday" scenarios -- On Nov. 5, the presidential election winds up in a electoral-college tie, 269-269, the Democrat-controlled House picks Sen. Barack Obama as president, but the Senate, with former Democrat Joe Lieberman voting with Republicans, deadlocks at 50-50, so Vice President Dick Cheney steps in to break the tie to make Republican Sarah Palin his successor.
As far as the Times go, they've certainly got my attention. That Woody gushes over the most unlikely, improbable scenario possible is just kinda creepy. Aside from the obvious point that the certification of the Electoral College vote would proceed under a newly-seated Congress (presumably with a majority (not necessarily working) that doesn't include Joltin' Joe), I simply don't see any reason Joe Lieberman would do that. Voting to confirm Palin wouldn't land him a job in the administration of the (previously confirmed) President Obama, and it would certainly be followed by the words "I will not be seeking another term as the Senator from Connecticut" for all intents and purposes. And that assumes he has the Joementum to survive the recall vote sure to await the man who put the Least Qualified Veep Candidate Ever over the top. The whole scenario is just obnoxiously far-fetched.
The rest of the Times article presents a fair, if somewhat wishful, presentation of the possible politics behind a tie in electoral votes - standard fare. But I just can't get over that first paragraph. It's like the hook must include something that their readers think really sticks in the craw of the Left, and then they slap the trappings around it. After that, we're blessed with the opportunity to witness Woody's arousal at the thought of liberals so driven mad with rage that the National Guard would have to be brought out, and yadda yadda yadda President Palin nukes us to Heaven!
Woody scores additional points for having admitted that this particular revenge fantasy was crushed by the batshit insane prognostications of DHo, who, through a quick look at some Zogby polls, predicts a McCain landslide. And thus begins the turgidity brought on by the thought of a massively popular President McCain who drives liberals so mad with rage that the National Guard would have to be brought out, and yadda yadda yadda Jesus go BOOM!
Before I end, I'd be remiss if I didn't inform you that no visit to Woody's site is complete without a glance at the "Random Obama Facts" generator. My current "fact":
FACT: Tony Rezko once offered Obama a sweetheart land deal, but Obama said "no" because he wanted his family to stay within the community of which he was the organizer.
Kinda reads like a really bad fortune cookie, huh?
Monday, September 22, 2008
Echo Chambering
Posted by
dave3544
Blue Oregon has a story about what an asshole John McCain is. In my dreams this is the kind of thing McCain is asked about in a debate.
Labels:
echo chamber,
The Maverick
Thursday, September 18, 2008
Not Sure If I Would Meet With Him Either, to Tell the God's Honest
Posted by
dave3544
Let me get out ahead of Goldberg on this.
McCain refused to say if he would meet with the President of Spain and thought that Spain was in Latin America because as a POW for five-and-a-half years he had crazy men shouting at him in foreign accents, thereby permanently damaging his ability to understand anything other than American English. And as far as geography goes, McCain spent five-and-a-half years studying the inside of a 5' x 5' cell. That's the geography he knows!
McCain refused to say if he would meet with the President of Spain and thought that Spain was in Latin America because as a POW for five-and-a-half years he had crazy men shouting at him in foreign accents, thereby permanently damaging his ability to understand anything other than American English. And as far as geography goes, McCain spent five-and-a-half years studying the inside of a 5' x 5' cell. That's the geography he knows!
Labels:
The Maverick
More of This, But Less of That
Posted by
dave3544
Obama: Now he tells us he's the one who's going to take on the old boy's network. The old boy's network. In the McCain campaign, that's called a staff meeting.
Also, yesterday I listened to an NPR story on the polls. Typical stuff.
Republican pollster goes first. Huge bounce from convention. McCain up by 5. Will come back a little, but will be ahead heading into the fall. No racism in campaign, but Dems say they worry about McCain's age. Dems equal discriminators. White women love Palin. Greatest decision ever. Highest bounce ever. Greatest comeback ever. McCain should be way behind, is ahead. Historic campaign.
Democratic pollster goes. Ummm, well very complicated. Worked on campaigns in the past. Polls spot on in primaries, no racism expected to play in. High turnout could affect polls. Of course white women love McCain, they are Republicans. Umm...McCain strengthening base. Ummm...complicated. America very divided. High turnout could swing it.
I start crying at this point. How many times must a party get beat, before a party starts asking why? Every "fucking" time. Republican: strong, assertive, assured, lying, knows no one in the world is going to call him on it, understand radio interview is propaganda opportunity. Democrat: Hesitant, concerned with nuance, conceeding to opponent, half-heartedly asserts that what looks obvious just might not be, thinks radio interview is opportunity to discuss issues/educate voters.
Then I read in today's paper a NYT/CBS poll shows Obama ahead by 5, no convention bounce for McCain, and no increased strength for McCain among women. Did the Dem pollster not know about this? Arrrrrgggg....fuck, fuck, fuck and why, why, why? Why every four years do we manage to find ways to just hand the goddamn election to them?
Also, yesterday I listened to an NPR story on the polls. Typical stuff.
Republican pollster goes first. Huge bounce from convention. McCain up by 5. Will come back a little, but will be ahead heading into the fall. No racism in campaign, but Dems say they worry about McCain's age. Dems equal discriminators. White women love Palin. Greatest decision ever. Highest bounce ever. Greatest comeback ever. McCain should be way behind, is ahead. Historic campaign.
Democratic pollster goes. Ummm, well very complicated. Worked on campaigns in the past. Polls spot on in primaries, no racism expected to play in. High turnout could affect polls. Of course white women love McCain, they are Republicans. Umm...McCain strengthening base. Ummm...complicated. America very divided. High turnout could swing it.
I start crying at this point. How many times must a party get beat, before a party starts asking why? Every "fucking" time. Republican: strong, assertive, assured, lying, knows no one in the world is going to call him on it, understand radio interview is propaganda opportunity. Democrat: Hesitant, concerned with nuance, conceeding to opponent, half-heartedly asserts that what looks obvious just might not be, thinks radio interview is opportunity to discuss issues/educate voters.
Then I read in today's paper a NYT/CBS poll shows Obama ahead by 5, no convention bounce for McCain, and no increased strength for McCain among women. Did the Dem pollster not know about this? Arrrrrgggg....fuck, fuck, fuck and why, why, why? Why every four years do we manage to find ways to just hand the goddamn election to them?
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Obama,
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Tuesday, September 16, 2008
Dear POW McMaverick
Posted by
wobblie
If you want people working for you who will wander off-message in spectacular ways, I'll offer my services to you at half the price you're paying your current crop of amateurs. As my co-bloggers will attest, I can blow a talking point eight ways to Sunday.
Monday, September 15, 2008
Broken face
Posted by
wobblie
It appears that the Eleventh Commandment might no longer be operative:
(h/t tbogg)
To be sure, there's a bit of self-interest reflected in these vids.The former is the beta testing for Mitt! v.2012 (see update below). I have a sneaking suspicion that the latter reflects the propagandists at FOX recognition that their ratings bread will be buttered by flinging poo at an Obama administration rather than carrying water for Bush's third term.
However, I think there's something more interesting going on here (and with Rove's recent posturing) that lies beneath the surface. As dr has pointed out, there is a ferocious power struggle within the GOP right now, with three different constituencies fighting over who will control the party's corpse.
It's not news that McCain is not a particularly popular figure with the party faithful, and his campaign strategy of running against the GOP while promoting the party's ideas seems to me an impossible task. But with his selection of Palin, he's essentially sold his soul to the social conservatives who are a big enough plurality of the party so as to call the shots.
There's also a lack of recognition among the GOP about the bankruptcy of conservatism as a governing philosophy (a point which Obama is starting to hammer) - they basically think that their shit is an essential ingredient in eau de toilette.
All of this is to say that I think the internecine backstabbing within the GOP is to prepare McCain as a patsy for a loss in November. You'll note that Palin, despite her inexperience, corruption, and cronyism, is spared any criticism from the right, presumably in the belief that she is the amiable Bush-like character who can sell the extremist Republican agenda four years down the road. Should the GOP ticket lose in November (a possibility which many Republican pooh-bahs either recognize or are now actively abetting), the blame can be fixed on McCain's inept campaigning rather than the obvious shortcomings of conservatism (which, of course cannot fail - it can only be failed).
updated: via kos and Stoller, the Mitt! video is from the primaries. But I'll still stick with my conspiracy theory.
(h/t tbogg)
To be sure, there's a bit of self-interest reflected in these vids.
However, I think there's something more interesting going on here (and with Rove's recent posturing) that lies beneath the surface. As dr has pointed out, there is a ferocious power struggle within the GOP right now, with three different constituencies fighting over who will control the party's corpse.
It's not news that McCain is not a particularly popular figure with the party faithful, and his campaign strategy of running against the GOP while promoting the party's ideas seems to me an impossible task. But with his selection of Palin, he's essentially sold his soul to the social conservatives who are a big enough plurality of the party so as to call the shots.
There's also a lack of recognition among the GOP about the bankruptcy of conservatism as a governing philosophy (a point which Obama is starting to hammer) - they basically think that their shit is an essential ingredient in eau de toilette.
All of this is to say that I think the internecine backstabbing within the GOP is to prepare McCain as a patsy for a loss in November. You'll note that Palin, despite her inexperience, corruption, and cronyism, is spared any criticism from the right, presumably in the belief that she is the amiable Bush-like character who can sell the extremist Republican agenda four years down the road. Should the GOP ticket lose in November (a possibility which many Republican pooh-bahs either recognize or are now actively abetting), the blame can be fixed on McCain's inept campaigning rather than the obvious shortcomings of conservatism (which, of course cannot fail - it can only be failed).
updated: via kos and Stoller, the Mitt! video is from the primaries. But I'll still stick with my conspiracy theory.
Sunday, September 14, 2008
When you've lost Turd Blossom
Posted by
wobblie
Even Karl Rove thinks McCain has a small problem with the truth:
Parsing that out, it's clear that Rove doesn't have a problem with lying per se, but rather lying in campaign ads that have the imprimatur of McCain approving the message. Had the lies come out in, say, an ad put out by a 527 or in a push-poll, I'm sure he would have been high-fivin' Chris Wallace after delivering his "objective" analysis.
Parsing that out, it's clear that Rove doesn't have a problem with lying per se, but rather lying in campaign ads that have the imprimatur of McCain approving the message. Had the lies come out in, say, an ad put out by a 527 or in a push-poll, I'm sure he would have been high-fivin' Chris Wallace after delivering his "objective" analysis.
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