Speaking of exploitation, Michelle Obama's video made me cry, which I thought was an acceptable reaction. Now Hillary Clinton's video has made me cry, which makes me question my resolve against being manipulated by the newly well-oiled dem machine of hope.
Yeah, this delivery is not sincere enough to elicit any more tears. It's as though a high-schooler 20 years from now is wearing a blonde wig and a pantsuit, reciting this for a school project. I guess we'll see.
'Course. I've got three hours until the Daily Show.
IN case my previous comment made no sense to those not watching MSNBC, Olberman's first words after the speech were "Knocked it out of the park. Home run. Couldn't have done better."
gents, i have to get up very early tomorrow for a full day of compelling companies to enter secret agreements. :) awesome job as usual, team organizing grievances! way fun!
I do love it when the media spends four months digging up every single "PUMA" supporter and constantly bringing up any tension between HRC and BHO, only to find that maybe these feelings weren't really so strong. And then blaming "big money people" who "maybe" were heard too much.
Jeeeebus.
Glad to see everyone working off the same talking points.
This guy from Brandeis on PBS is sharp - the Clintons want to keep their leverage in the party, and if they're seen as having any part should Obama lose, they're toast.
Yeah, it seems like they're trying to pivot away from the PUMA story to the "unity" line. I think we'll see if that narrative's dead and buried for sure on Thursday.
i think that was about as passionate as she's capable of. she almost even seemed sincere. and i'm no hillary fan, so the fact that i bought it says something, i think...
Maybe it's the whole tv/in person thing - the energy doesn't necessarily transmit well. I do, however, think she was sincere, and totally agreed, that speech was aimed at her partisans, and they needed to hear it.
Parenting called me away last night but let me push the OG into the over 75 comments on a post category by saying that I agree with Ash and Wobs (although I surely would have been called out for carrying the Co. Water had I said that last night). I am not sure how that speech could have been much more than it was. True it wasn't memorable (but that is probably preferable--think about what kind of speech would have been). I suppose it could have been more edgy and attacking, but from where I sit that is for tonight and the guy who got the job.
So I thought it was "fine" for a speech that was so rhetorically hemmed in.
sidenote: Can't you all add Twitter and have LD weigh in from the floor?
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Hillary better kick ass. Lots of it.
I'm in. Let's rock it.
And why didn't Schweitzer deliver the keynote?
Well--I was thinking of turning in, but hanging out with you guys--who could turn that down. Let's swap strategies!
Has anyone seen Lex on the floor?
Songs by men about women.
No Lex sightings yet. But he's probably not wearing a funny hat.
Damn good candidate bio. Like the Obama worked in. Thought it was interesting that he was in more shots than Bill.
Okay, the musical director needs to be shot.
You mean "Hillary's husband"?
What is the music?
It's crap.
Straight to the point, eh?
Actually the time to unite was February, but okay...
I'm done with the "I'll never forget the poor shlub who I met once for 30 seconds and will now exploit" schtick.
You've got two more months of that, my friend.
Actually, I'll amend that - a lifetime of that.
Producer: Can we get an out-of-focus pan on camera three? Yeah, that's good. Let's go back to that later.
Speaking of exploitation, Michelle Obama's video made me cry, which I thought was an acceptable reaction. Now Hillary Clinton's video has made me cry, which makes me question my resolve against being manipulated by the newly well-oiled dem machine of hope.
I like the "were you in it" lines.
Now I'm remembering why she didn't win the nomination...
Except NAFTA. Fucked us on NAFTA, didn't you Bill?
Yeah, this delivery is not sincere enough to elicit any more tears. It's as though a high-schooler 20 years from now is wearing a blonde wig and a pantsuit, reciting this for a school project. I guess we'll see.
She needs to wrap it up -- Jon Stewart's on in one minute on the east coast.
e.! It beats being manipulated by Spielberg!
Stop it with the fucking honorable lines! Agh!
This comment thread needs a woman!
Wait, wait, wait...did Amy Poehler just get on the stage?
I could have sworn she did.
TWINS!
cps, meet e. Hear her roar.
i am pretty sure i qualify as a woman.
She is not hitting McCain hard.
If that's it, then WTF?
Chels looks bored out of her skull.
sorry--thought that was EZ--my bad!
although my visual of EZ crying is ruined!
dave, it's because Hillary and McCain are *friends.* Her words.
Now I'm crying.
Who wrote this speech? Did a high school (h/t to e.) write this goddamn speech?
Ummmm...pap.
Olberman. Love it.
@Dave,
My vote's on Mark Penn.
Stick around for the punditocracy?
curses, why were we watching this on public television! i should have thought of olbermann. just switched to msnbc.
For those of us who don't have cable, we'll need more than just "Olberman"!
(Mark Penn wrote the speech) - y'all need comment numbers on this blog.
Did Chris Matthew's just get out of a pool filled with nothing but chlorine?
Holy shit, Bobo agrees with me that the "were you in it for me" line was good. Reconsidering everything.
although i guess this means we have to also listen to chris "locomotion, if you will...." "democrat is a very important word" matthews
'Course. I've got three hours until the Daily Show.
IN case my previous comment made no sense to those not watching MSNBC, Olberman's first words after the speech were "Knocked it out of the park. Home run. Couldn't have done better."
Great speech? Wtf Chris Matthews? "I always want to start with a summary because I used to do this for a living"
Is he admitting not doing real news anymore?
Matthews is touting the "twins" line, which I thought was a groaner.
Yay! Rachel Maddow!
The PBS crowd is pretty gaga over the speech as well.
Buchanan is going to go with his "she didn't really attack McCain, so she doesn't really want Barack to win" schtick.
gents, i have to get up very early tomorrow for a full day of compelling companies to enter secret agreements. :) awesome job as usual, team organizing grievances! way fun!
I do love it when the media spends four months digging up every single "PUMA" supporter and constantly bringing up any tension between HRC and BHO, only to find that maybe these feelings weren't really so strong. And then blaming "big money people" who "maybe" were heard too much.
Jeeeebus.
Glad to see everyone working off the same talking points.
This guy from Brandeis on PBS is sharp - the Clintons want to keep their leverage in the party, and if they're seen as having any part should Obama lose, they're toast.
night e., thanks for joining us!
If Richardson had mentioned he was a pitcher during the "gay debate," he might be the VP nominee.
Yeah, it seems like they're trying to pivot away from the PUMA story to the "unity" line. I think we'll see if that narrative's dead and buried for sure on Thursday.
hey, ya'll.
And with that, I give you this and take my leave.
Holy crap! My non-cable bleeds CNN through!
ASH!
Ash!
Dave is aware of all internet traditions.
i think maybe i just got played, because i thought HRC did a good job with this.
And, on cue, CNN rolls the McCain ad featuring the Hillary quotes from primary season.
Can I return after a Rick Roll?
Fuck it.
This is why we need to hear from Ash. What did you like? Let's face it, I'm not the target audience for the "I am woman, hear me roar" stuff.
I've seen her more passionate, and I think she pulled some punches, but in terms of affecting what the media says, it seems to have been effective.
yeah, but her supporters did need to hear that. they were the target audience.
Carville called Hill's effort Koufax-esque (not surprisingly), but they're all saying they've never seen a more gracious runner-up speech.
i think that was about as passionate as she's capable of. she almost even seemed sincere. and i'm no hillary fan, so the fact that i bought it says something, i think...
Alright. Fingers hurt. I'll keep reading though.
Obama was at a Billings "house party." Must have been off the hizzy.
Maybe it's the whole tv/in person thing - the energy doesn't necessarily transmit well. I do, however, think she was sincere, and totally agreed, that speech was aimed at her partisans, and they needed to hear it.
Obama apparently loved the "No way, no how, no McCain" line. Not my fave.
agreed. but i am embarrassed to admit that i liked the twins line.
Ok y'all, I've got to get up to work in the AM. Will we be reconvening for some hot Biden action tomorrow?
i'll be here. biden needs to do something serious to win me over.
Parenting called me away last night but let me push the OG into the over 75 comments on a post category by saying that I agree with Ash and Wobs (although I surely would have been called out for carrying the Co. Water had I said that last night). I am not sure how that speech could have been much more than it was. True it wasn't memorable (but that is probably preferable--think about what kind of speech would have been). I suppose it could have been more edgy and attacking, but from where I sit that is for tonight and the guy who got the job.
So I thought it was "fine" for a speech that was so rhetorically hemmed in.
sidenote: Can't you all add Twitter and have LD weigh in from the floor?
That would require Lex to know WTF Twitter is, which I'm not sure he does.
My understanding is that electronic access from the floor is not easy.
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